roskam touched on it, the president of the united states that if you like your health care plan come you can keep it. but i was at an event with the president came back and said when he was asked that question, well, there may have been language inserted in that bill that runs contrary to that premise. that is a paraphrase of his comments. what are we supposed to believe this to my question. so to follow up, your testimony suggests that the cuts to medicare advantage may force seniors out of the plan daylight and that they currently have. is that true? >> yes, that's true. and then enforcing to less less preferred options like before services are listed in the medicare. >> that's correct. >> let's talk about the seniors to lose their plan. is that you medicare trustees expect millions of seniors to lose access to medicare advantage altogether? >> i haven't seen them specify exactly how it's likely to fall out. one can surmise there's 4 million beneficiaries -- pure beneficiaries in 2017 then they will be in 2013. of those 4 million, one might surmise that marin counties for the plan